River Trout Fishing | Upstate New York

River Trout Fishing | Upstate New York


welcome everybody to the new fly Fisher
I’m your host Colin McEwen today I’m in the upstate New York fly-fishing with a
couple friends of mine Andrew and Raymond and were here principally doing
nymph fishing when I first started fly-fishing my mentor taught me
everything he knew about nymph fishing he told me he said do you want to catch
big fish and a lot of fish he said you gotta learn how to nymph fish today
we’re gonna be talking about the tactics and strategies that the three of us have
learned over the years plus we’ll be referring to several well-known nymph
fishers and some of the tactics and techniques that they use it’s going to
be a great show I know you’re going to enjoy it
stay with us it is a beautiful September day and
conditions are ideal for nipping today we are fishing on some of the beautiful
rivers of upstate New York specifically we are on some of the systems in the
eastern and are on decks these rivers generally have good public access and
support healthy levels of trout Raymond Sandara gear is a respected artist
specializing in prints of outdoor scenes he’s been an avid fly fisherman of his
life and enjoys nim fishing Andrew Bailey is a doctor who specializes in
HIV cases like Raymond he has been a fly fishing for quite a few years he
professes that nim fishing is his favorite way of fishing for trout and he
has accumulated a great deal of knowledge of the various techniques
possible this type of fishing in today’s show both Andrew and Raymond will show
me some of the techniques and rigging options available for nim fishing standing here at the bottom end of a
pool kind of in a tail out section fast water at the head of the pool and it’s a
little bit slower here although the currents still pretty good the water is
somewhere between 2 & 3 feet deep and there’s a lot of rocks probably the fish
will be lying on the downstream side of the rocks just waiting for food to drift
by and then they’ll jump up and drift grab the food the rig I’m using right
now is two flies in tandem the lead fly is a weighted fly it’s a size 12 Gold
herb hares ear with a tungsten bead head and about 12 to 18 inches below that I
have about a size 8 or size 10 stone fly as we saw earlier there’s a lot of stone
flies in this River and they’re about the size 8 to 10 range and mostly black
I have a strike indicator on a floating pinch on strike indicator and I had that
about 4 feet above my leap my downstream fly and the reason I chose 4 feet is
it’s about twice the depth of the water and hopefully that allowed to go down to
the bottom of the water my goal for fishing it is to fish the
bottom which is where the fish are probably lying and try to get a natural
drift of the fly coming down the river to make it look like a fly just drifting
downstream my main aim is I’m fishing this is to try to maintain a drag free
drift all the way downstream the moment I have any drag put into the line it
makes the the flies float look unnatural that haven’t you said I just had a hit
so I want to be a drag free drift as a I try to mend the line as I’m going
downstream to promote that drag free drift and and as I’m doing that the the
main thing is to try to keep the flies as close to the bottom as possible when I fish pocket water and this is a
small pool so it’s very much like most pocket water I usually fish it in the
same way you fish a pool you start at the bottom end because you never know
where if if trout are gonna be first first of all start at the bottom end and short cast first and then you work your
way up now we are nymph in here and we’re nimpah because there is no hatch
going on at the moment we check the rocks and we found some evidences of
what types a nymph or stone flies in here or some mayflies caddisflies i’ve
got something on that it’s pretty close to a stone fly then once we’ve worked
the bottom end of the pool and in this case we’re looking at pocket water what
we do is we work our way up and in every situation where you have water flowing
in fast water flowing into a little hole you’ve got scenes that form the seams
form right on the edge of the fast water and the slow water and the trout will
sit right in that seam so that they can sit in the slow water and pick off the
food as it comes down on the fast water so what we try and do is we try cover
the whole area we’re concentrating on specific areas in this case the seams
now I don’t like to use an indicator sometimes I wonder if I should because
in my eyesight but one thing I don’t I like to do is watch the line and as soon
as I see that line hesitate I I strike that’s my indicator now I’m going to fish the slower run on
the right-hand side of this stretch stretch of river on the far side on the
bank side on my right there’s a slow rep and there’s a little shelf underneath
that rock which would be a prime place if I was a face I’d want to hide in that
because the water is moving there it’s nicely aerated and food should be
carried into it between me and there there’s this faster section of moving
water and if my fly line gets in there it’s going to drag my fly at a rate
that’s faster than the water on the right hand side so needless say I don’t
want to do that I want it to drift it’s a natural speed of the current over
there so the approaches I can do is wait over there but then I’ll ruin this water
here or cast above it and try to hold my fly line in the slower moving water so I
don’t get the drag the who seems spot and misses again this
time I saw like I said I see the pool was an MP but I yeah
every time about 14 15 inches yeah working me my pretty colors well done sir mr. alright okay some of the terminal tackle you should
carry when nim fishing is various weights and floatation devices there are
numerous types of flotation devices available to the angular options include
pulse’ pinch on foam pads cork or plastic indicators which have a hole
through them in which you insert a toothpick to hold the line pinch on
putty such as the lune environmental products for fluorescent yarn which is
dressed with dry fly paste there are several options for anglers who want to
weight their rigs or flies so they’ll penetrate farther into the water column
the traditional approach is the use of lead split shot however due to
environmental concerns many anglers are shine away from lead and the use of
non-toxic products such as loons deep soft wait are becoming increasingly
popular loons brass head soft weight is often pinched on to the tops of flies in
place of bead heads as a means of weighting them so they can get near the
bottom a third type of indicator that has recently emerged is the use of fly
lines with markings on them riyo’s indicator lines are specifically
designed for uses such as named fishing as they feature alternating bands on the
first 20 feet of the fly line all of these devices have their strengths and
weaknesses and it seems personal preferences and experimentation are the
only true means of determining the best rig for you when you’re not using
weights on your rigging system an ideal cast to ensure your fly is near the
bottom is the tuck cast this cast drives your fly and leader under the line and
gets them to the bottom faster thus alleviating the effects of the current
which naturally push your fly towards the surface to execute a tuck cast make
a normal cast and when your rod gets to the 10 o’clock position stop it sharply
pulling back with the last two fingers of your casting hand and driving the
thumb forward your elbow should tuck back under your arm when this cast is
complete the key is that your fly will become much more effective because it
will be near the bottom feeding zone we found numerous NIM types when
checking under stones though it is nice to know the type pragmatically it is not
usually necessary simply match the size color and most importantly silhouette of
the nymphs you are finding as you progress with your entomological skills
you will better understand and identify the various nymph types in your local
systems there are several books I would recommend to viewers which provide
excellent details on entomology and nymph II prospecting for trout is an
excellent all-round book written by Tom Rosenbauer which provides anglers with
in-depth information on nipping strategies and rigging hatches to is a
complete and thorough guide to insect hatches throughout North America and
will greatly assist fly fishers in understanding the insect life in their
local rivers and lakes art flick stream side guide is a valuable asset to
identifying insects and their imitations and most anglers will find the book size
perfect for taking on the water this area here there’s an edge of rocks and
just over the edge looks like a nice deep hole and there has to be fish lying
in there but as I said I haven’t been successful in getting them yet so what
I’ve changed to is a a pretty heavily weighted system right now I’m fishing
with at the end of my leader I have a small piece of lead split shot and then
about two feet down from that I have a weighted fly again this one’s a
flashback all of bead head hairs are pattern and this technique is
essentially a high sticking technique and the idea is that the lead split shot
will go to the bottom first because that’s the heaviest and behind it will
be drifting the the weighted nymph again it’s a high sticking technique and try
to drop the fly in the weight right where you think the fish are slightly
above it and just drift it down over their head feeling for any slight
resistance in the fly you’re going to feel resistance because hopefully it’s
on the bottom and bouncing off rocks so every time you do feel that resistance
just give it a little tug or a little flick and quite quickly you’ll you’ll
learn to distinguish the bounce of a rock from the take of the fish
I’m feeling the balance of the rock now and unfortunately no takes a fish just
yet some of the NIP rigs we use today
include Andrews favorite setup the California rig which is a right-angle
flotation system and also a two nymph rig which features a dropper fly which
can imitate in an emergent it is important to check your provincial or
state regulations to ensure that the use of two flies is legal the rods we use today include a Thompson
Thomas horizon a Winston LT and I used a Diamondback arrow flex all rods were
five weights in a nine foot length I used at Eaton number six reel for the
tying recipes to the Flies we use today and more visit our website at wwlp.com another beautiful fish well this is just
another you’re certainly showing wine nipping works a loi now let’s see if I
can get over here without drowning just wet the net here yeah when you’re ready
where is he okay I’ll put on my glasses see them
better can you bring them upstream who’s gone down I’ll come over to you there we go oh nice fish beautiful fish
let’s get them in the water here okay well done okay you got your hemostats
okay let’s get this out oh look he’s slashing them look at that
wonder what that caused that somebody took a whack on them okay let’s get this
guy ready Oh there he goes again well done
that was great this is why I like NIMH fishing you not only catch a lot more
fish a lot of times but you catch them some of the biggest fish you know it’s
just like streamer fishing that was another great brown trout and as you can
see nymph fishing is extremely effective it’s a great way of catching trout as
well as other species I strongly recommend you do some research there’s
some great books out there that talk a lot about the different types of nymph
tactics the rigs you can use as well as the patterns from all of us here at the
new fly fisher thanks for joining us we’ll see you next week the new fly fisher is sponsored by Bank
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14 comments on “River Trout Fishing | Upstate New York

  1. Cool video, that was upper upper upstate NY lol. I've never fished that particular stream but the boulders and bowling ball rocks look familiar on the ones I have fished. Wading staff and Korkers are part of my equipment up there, and I still look like Colin navigating the stream bed, ;o) Thanks guys.

  2. Love your shows, always like the way you blend entertainment, education and conservation into one! Truly one of the best fly fishing shows that we're blessed to have! Thank you..

  3. Loved the vid, watched with mixed feelings as it reminds me of some of the rivers I fished over 30 years back. Unspoilt. I fish and do small vids on small lakes now, as our rivers are in decline and almost nothing able to live in them, and silt building up every year, with every flood. I do get enjoyment fishing these stocked ponds and doing the videos BUT ITS Nothing like what you lucky Angler's have.

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